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      The title says it all, doesn’t it?!? Let’s roll!
      The basis for such work is the latest PDF from Moon Design & neither the hardcover book nor the first release of the PDF! Please be careful as the current PDF has already been corrected & improved a few times…
      P. 53, The Ambitious Noble: “She then adds her distinguishing characteristic, [proud,] which she decides is a breakout ability from her noble keyword.”
      P. 53, The Ambitious Noble: “She spends [nine] of her ability points to raise various abilities; she keeps [three] in reserve “just in case.””
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Ability Points: [3]”
      To summarize: Earth +3, Life +1, Noble +4, Ambitious +1 = 9
      P. 53, The Proud Thane: “Neil has a copy of the Sartar: Kingdom of Heroes book and makes his hero from the [Orlmarth] clan of the Colymar Tribe.” (Vargast is an Orlmarthing, i.e. he is a member of the Orlmarth clan…)
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Hero: Vargast the Thunderer, Proud Thane of the [Orlmarth] Clan”
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Air 11W Devotee of Orlanth (passionate, proud, unpredictable, violent) Lightning Spear +1 Feat Thunderer +1 [Proud +1]
      (He already gets Proud at 11W through the Air Rune even if he doesn’t take it as a breakout ability, thus it doesn’t make a lot of sense to take it as a breakout ability from the Mastery Rune at a lower rating of 18, doesn’t it?!? Thus, Air 11W Proud +1)
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Mastery 17 […]” (Bis)
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Distinguishing Characteristic: Proud [12W] (from [Air])” (Ter)
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Community: [Orlmarth] clan 13”
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Companion: Firewind (allied [s]pirit)”
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Ability Points: [2]”
      To summarize: Air +10 = 10
      P. 54, The Proud Thane: “He adds his distinguishing characteristic, proud, as a breakout ability of his [Air] Rune.”
      P. 54, The Proud Thane: “As additional abilities, Neil takes an allied spirit as a companion; a magical lightning spear (a breakout ability of the Air Rune); and a [relationship (Lunars killed my wife)].”
      (According to the feat rules on p. 146, as a newly-minted devotee Vargast got his Thunderer feat for free. Besides, his “Lunars killed my wife” ability also has to be accounted for.)
      P. 53, Character Sheet: “Unspent Additional Abilities: 2″ is indeed correct!
      To summarize: Lightning Spear +1, Lunars killed my wife 13, Companion: Firewind = 3
      P. 54, Character Sheet: “Flaws: Incapable of love [9]W Geas of Humakt: Never Forgive a Betrayal [7]W” (The Geas should have the same rating as the Gift & Incapable of Love -as a “normal” flaw- should have a rating the same as the highest ability, i.e. Magical Sword Neckchopper at 9W.)
      P. 54, Character Sheet: As an initiate of Humakt, Karganvale should have a Sword Fighting ability somewhere or other… The easiest way is to put a breakout ability under the Death Rune with a +1 rating. Cf. P. 166: “All Humakti have the Specific ability of Sword Fighting at least at the same rating as their Death Rune. Although this ability is linked to their Death Rune rating, it is an independent ability, improved separately, and can be augmented by the Death Rune.”
      P. 54, The Vengeful Mercenary: “Franziska agrees that [it] is exactly [the] sort of god she wants her heroine to worship and gives her the Runes of Darkness, Death, and Truth, at 17, 1W, and 13 respectively; [she also] makes her an initiate of Humakt.”
      P. 54: Character Sheet: “Unspent Additional Abilities: [2]”
      To summarize: Trick Riding +1, Long Dance +1 & Zortan the Optimistic.
      P. 54: Character Sheet: “Ability Points [2]”
      To summarize: Water +4, Illusion +2, Water +4 = 10. As correctly written on p. 55: “He adds 10 ability points, leaving two in reserve.”
      P. 54: Character Sheet: “Community: Thirstless spirit society 13″ should go as it is already subsumed under the Spirit Rune according to p. 136 of the rules. Else it should become an additional ability & be paid accordingly, i.e. “Unspent Additional Abilities: 1”!
      P. 54, : “He takes two [..] [charms] from the Thirstless spirit society (to broaden the range of [magic] available to Herrox);”
      P. 68, Samastina’s Saga: Meeting with the Queen: ““Great,” agrees Claudia. “So the goal is that you want the queen to bestow emissary status on [your] group.””
      P. 68, Samastina’s Saga: Meeting with the Queen: “”The base difficulty is 14 plus […] W2 (for being Nearly Impossible), bringing the difficulty to [14]W2. Claudia declares, “You have a difficulty of [14]W2.” Everyone gasps. “It is well known that Samastina’s clan and Hendira’s political faction are at odds with each other, and Hendira deeply distrusts this ambitious girl. You need to overcome the difficulty of [14]W2 with your 6W, your mastery cancels out one of mine, giving me an [14]W against your rating of only 6.””
      P. 68, Samastina’s Saga: Meeting with the Queen: ““I have a Mastery over you, remember you have only a 6 and I have [14]W and so my mastery bumps your failure down to a [f]umble.””
      P. 68, Samastina’s Saga: Meeting with the Queen: “”Claudia reads from the Describing […] Results table:”
      P. 70, Esrolian Factions: “After the Masters of Luck and Death [contest] fail[s] to replace the God-King of the Holy Country after his disappearance in 1616, the unity of the Holy Country is quickly torn apart. Esrolia is troubled by struggles between the pro-Lunar Red Earth Alliance of Queen Hendira, the anti-Lunar Old Earth Alliance of the priestesses of Ezel, and the ambitious Warm Earth Alliance, led by the [Demivierge] of Rhigos and her armies of savage spearmen. The conflicts between the factions grow in intensity until they break out into open warfare in 1622.”
      P. 71, Samastina’s Saga: Leaving Nochet (part 1): ““So you are [all ready] to go now?” asks Claudia.”
      P. 71, Samastina’s Saga: Leaving Nochet (part 1): “”Franziska says, “Karganvale uses her Sense Assassin breakout from her Death Rune to choose a safe route out of the city. That’s at [7]W.”” (Cf. p. 54)
      P. 71, Samastina’s Saga: Leaving Nochet (part 1): ““Franziska, your Sense Assassins ability is specific against the Blue Moon Assassins tracking you, so you get a Specific Ability Bonuses of +6, [which puts you] at [13]W.””
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    Rules Issues

    p63 – point 6 – any number of Hero Points for a single dice roll or just one? (contradicts p60)

    p63 (and p243) – the results table is very confusing since it doesn’t show any failures. The meaning is clear once you read the text, but there’s no point having a table if it just confuses things (it confused me when I first read it). The HQ2 table is too wordy, but this has gone too far the other way.

    p68 – Difficulty +2W2 should be +W2 for Nearly Impossible.

    p84 – last para says that the winner never scores less than a Minor Victory, but the table allows for a Marginal Victory.

    p136 – 2nd column, 2nd-to-last para implies that there is a limit for some for increasing abilities in a charm. What is the limit for raising charms for those not in a spirit society? Is it +1?

    Non-rules-related Typos

    p46 – Assigning Ability Ratings – “one of the character creation methods” seems like a hangover from HQ2’s various methods as opposed to just the one in HQG.

    p46 – ditto – 1W was defined earlier on p33, not “later”.

    p48 – Lead – should be indented.

    p74 – repetition under point 3 of Extended Contest Sequence.

    p75 – 1st para, “He tells” should be “He tells them”.

    p83 – 2nd para, “following table” should be “table above”.

    p91 – sidebar, 2nd para, “religious” should be “religions”.

    p98 – 1st column, 4th to last para, “loosing” should be “losing”.

    p115 – 2nd column, 1st para after Arkat story, “as follows” should be “as shown in the previous diagram”, or similar.

    p116 – Complete Defeat mentioned in text, presumably at King’s Banquet, so should be a double arrow in diagram. Should earlier para (3rd in 2nd column) refer to major and complete being double arrows?

    p119 – 2nd column, 2nd para, “Game Mastery” should be “Game Master”.

    p127 – Gaming Tips – “this chapter”? This isn’t a chapter, perhaps “section”?

    p130 – 2nd column, 2nd para, extraneous colon.

    p146 – Feats, “of one your” should be “of one of your”.

    p157 – 1st column, 2nd para, add “and” before “he fled”.

    p162 – Organization, 1st sentence doesn’t make sense even with “a” added before “single”.

    p190 – bottom of 1st column, “the scope *of* these rules”.

    p200 – 2nd column, 2nd para, remove comma at end of first line since it changes the meaning.

    p204 – point 2, “deduce … for” doesn’t make sense. “from”?

    p221 – 1st column, last para, ” link” should be “linking”.

    p224 – 1st column, 3rd para, “herder” should be “herders”.

    p229 – The Army of Darkness – “someone” should be “somehow”.

    p230 – 2nd column, 4th para, “Within it” should be “Within is”.

    p230 – last bullet “it was dead ruler” should be “it was a dead ruler”.

    p234 – 2nd column, 3rd para, just another example that seems to duplicate from previous page, 1st column, 2nd para.

    p256 – in the 3rd box, the the caption seems to be missing a word at the end, perhaps “Sartar”?

      Steve, you asked: How did you get blank lines in there?
      There is a tool bar above the post box, try it, play with it, use it!
      (I used the “UL” box to arrive at the above result.)
      Wait submitting anything for a few days, we are sorting out an alternative as it’s now difficult to find any of the stuff listed on the forums/G+/Facebook/email.
      So let us wait then!?!
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    Following what Jeff said on G+ about “typos”, I’ve separated out my rules-related issues from the other stuff that isn’t directly related to the rules, and edited my post above accordingly.

    I wait with interest to see what alternative method will be provided for submitting suggested errata.

    P.S. Thanks, Christoph, for the suggestion about the blank lines.

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