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July 22, 2014 at 11:55 am #10094
To the contrary. While it is not known to the Orlanthi, who might feel fine without it, Chaos is responsible for change in Glorantha. See page 162 in the guide.
And according to the Cult Compendium, an Ulerian song refers to Chaos as “Mother and Father of the World”, although this may no longer be accurate.July 21, 2014 at 7:17 pm #10082
Ah thank you Jeff. I knew it was an unfinished work, I just didn’t know which bits weren’t in tune with current thinking. Thanks.
And Douglas, I don’t think that a demonized Uleria or Uleria aspect would be associated with love, or at least not healthy love. And the Orlanthi have plenty of other gods to fill the gap if need be (Vela the Matchmaker, Niskis, and of course all the gods as Hara).
But yeah, if the demonic form isn’t around still, or at least isn’t the dominant form, I’m happy to be mistaken.July 21, 2014 at 4:25 pm #10075
Well, I was going from the book of Heortling mythology, which mentions her as a demon whose breathless love breaks apart everything it touches, and whose influence makes people fight or abandon their kin.
If that’s an old way of thinking and no longer the case, sorry for misunderstanding.July 21, 2014 at 2:17 pm #10072
This does raise another question or two about other foul and cruel deities like Zorak Zoran. Does the god of hate have a Chaotic Aspect?
Also, the goddess Seseine. She’s described as being the goddess of vile and overwhelming lusts, which disrupt society. This is remarkably similar to how the Heortlings describe Uleria. What separates Chaotic Seseine from Evil but non-Chaotic Uleria? Or is the entity the Heortlings call Uleria merely an incarnation of this Fonritan goddess?July 18, 2014 at 1:13 am #9987
Well, one way to handle it is to say: Ompalam, as the master of all, has enslaved Chaos and used it to shape the material universe. When worshipped under Ompalam’s control, Chaos can be used to do good and further Ompalam’s control. When outside of the proper chains, Chaos is evil.July 4, 2014 at 10:06 am #8423
It may not be Lhankor Mhy, or concerning a Rune, but the rules for Flintnail cultists allow you to gain a grimoire as a breakout from your stonemason keyword. This would suggest that you can nest keywords within each other.July 2, 2014 at 9:34 am #8358
There’s at least a couple of myths in the real world where the goddess travels.
Demeter’s search for her daughter for instance.
Isis’ search for her husband’s remains to return him to life is another.June 30, 2014 at 1:15 am #8296
How about this: To the Pentans, the Lightfore and the Sun are the same body.
During the day, Kargzant rides with his family, and together with the star captains acting as his honour guard, everyone rides so close that they appear to outsiders to be merely one body.
During the night, his family sleeps while the star captains and Kargzant perform their nightly watch. The star captains circling the world, while their Khan rides across the sky alone.May 6, 2014 at 1:26 pm #7797
Note the following is merely my opinion, and YGWV, mine certainly does. But this may be of use/interest to others:
It’s my opinion that Vivamort is a God Learnered figure, combining various deities like Nontraya into a kind of whole.
The many weaknesses of vampires came from the original different cultural figures responsible for vampires, and how each culture dealt with them.
Amongst the Orlanthi it is known that vampires fear Humakt’s sword, the Death Rune, which is the only thing that can truly slay them, and so vampires are repelled by the rune, while decapitation by a Humakti’s blade will stop them from rising once more.
The Uz know that the one the God Learners called Vivamort was the cowardly brother of Styx, who abandoned his post and was cursed for it. As the source of all water, Styx’s black tendrils quickly find any Vampire who is submerged in running water and drag them to Styx’s grotto in the underworld, killing them.
In Dara Happa, vampires are the worshippers of the bat goddess, cursed by her slaying of Murharzarm, making the sun’s touch anathema to them. In Peloria vampires are staked out in the sun to return to death, turning to dust as Yelm’s punishment takes hold.
It’s through cross-cultural communication that these methods and many more became common knowledge for everyone, probably first during the World’s Council of Friends.
When a vampire is found it is quite common to use as many of these techniques to dispose of them, staking them in the sun, removing the head, and sending the body to the deep.
It may seem like overkill, but given how cunning vampires are, no one is sure if they might survive one method, so it is safer to use as many as possible.May 1, 2014 at 12:43 pm #7745Quote:Quote from Jeff Richard on April 30, 2014, 07:31
Outsiders often call Dara Happan “Firespeech”.
One wonders if this is a product of Tradetalk?
It would make sense that tradetalk, unable to describe complex ideas (like the names of languages), would end up describing them as [rune]+language.