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  • #15484
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    The First relates to EXTENDED CONTESTS
    The Second relates to SIMPLE CONTESTS

    #10427
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    When one of the heroes dies …
    It all depends on how they died…let me try and explain how I did it in game terms…The one that died drowned, hence the “part” they lost was part of their souls…in this case as it was water related i had them gain a Flaw involving crossing water/swimming etc. as a display of their fear of water…..
    It would be cool to have a hero loose some points in an apropos rune affinity depending on how they were killed in a contest that was a de facto heroquest challenge or maybe an identity challenge they would loose points in that part of their soul where the opponent opposes it (as in the cycle of elemental progrssion)

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    Thanks David
    I had found all of these but i was wondering which deity(ies) they originated from, or if there was a creator of all animals or creator of these animal ancestor deities in Dara Happan myth
    I guess this could be Oria?

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    As a follow up to my first reply I would suggest reading these two sources:

    Frankel, V.E. (2010). From Girl to Goddess: The Heroine’s Journey through Myth and Legend

    She also has written some interesting books on women in Game of Thrones FYI

    Pearson, C. (1991). Awakening the Heroes Within: Twelve Archetypes to Help Us Find Ourselves and Transform Our World

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    I would make a couple of simple comments in reply…

    A Journey doesnt always mean a physical movement from locale to locale…it may well be an emotional journey…

    Lets not forget that Ernalda made a physical journey when she was rescued/kidnapped by Orlanth from her place in Yelm’s garden

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    Elmal’s Daughters

    During the darkness, Orlanth took the warriors to fight the forces of chaos. He instructed Elmal to stay behind and commanded him to guard the stead and the lands of the Tula. Orlanth gave the shield Arran to Elmal and then he turned to embrace Ernalda. As he left, Orlanth told her to watch Elmal and ensure he guarded well, for although Vinga could fight, not all the Goddesses could defend themselves. Elmal would be the only defence against any foes.
    Ernalda set Elmal to guard the stead, while she and her sisters set about their chores. Elmal took his spear, named Sharp Point and Arran the Shield and stood guard at the doorway to the Stead. After some time he became cold and stepped inside. Here, Mahome tended the hearth fire and Elmal warmed himself. As he did so he noticed the beauty of Mahome for the first time, and she noticed how handsome he looked in the fine mail shirt and yellow britches. Mahome gave him griddle cakes and warm mead, and Elmal lay with her.
    When Ernalda returned from her tasks she could see that the doorway was unguarded, Elmal was no where to be seen. Ernalda was worried, for she feared the Predark demons had devoured Elmal. She approached the stead and looked inside, here she found Elmal and Mahome her daughter, each with a ruddy breathless look about their faces.
    “Why are you so red faced and breathless Elmal?” Asked Ernalda.
    “I have been fighting valiantly to protect the stead” gasped Elmal. He rubbed the crumbs of the griddle cakes from his mouth and the wiped the drops of mead from his chin.
    “Is this true Mahome?”
    “Yes, he is strong and brave, in fact he’s the strongest and bravest man in the whole Tula”. Mahome told the truth, because since Orlanth had taken the warriors away Elmal was the only true man in the whole Tula.
    “You are redder than normal too Mahome!” Questioned the doubting Ernalda.
    “I stoked the fire hotter than normal to scare the demons and to aid brave Elmal” . Mahome looked guilty and hid her face. “That is why I am ruddier than normal”.
    “Is this true Elmal?”
    “Yes Mahome fought well and I defeated the attackers of the stead” boasted Elmal.
    “Good” said Ernalda. “In that case you will guard the stable as well”.
    Elmal left the stead and went to defend the stable. Here he stood guard, yet as before his guard did not last, for he grew tired. So Elmal went inside to rest his weary limbs. Inside he saw fine Beseta, her gleaming body shone like the very sun itself, her long legs stretched out were oh so graceful and her beautiful golden hair cascaded from her head and down her shoulders. Beseta nuzzled Elmal and he lay with her.
    When Ernalda returned from her tasks she could see that the stable was unguarded, Elmal was no where to be seen. Ernalda was worried, for she feared the Predark demons had devoured Elmal. She approached the stable and looked inside, here she found Elmal and Beseta, each sweating.
    “Why are you sweating Elmal?” Asked Ernalda.
    “I have been fighting valiantly to protect the stable” gasped Elmal. He swept the straw off his body. “I fought so hard that the blood of our foes turned my britches red and so I am putting on a new pair” said Elmal as he replaced the yellow britches.
    “Is this true Beseta?” Ernalda asked her, but, Beseta said nothing and instead pawed the ground and tossed her head.
    “Good” said Ernalda. “In that case you will guard the Tula lands as well”.
    Elmal left the stable and went to guard the lands of Orlanth’s Tula. He patrolled well, for this time he was worried that Ernalda might notice if he did not do as instructed. Elmal went to the very edge of the Tula, right where the dark was the worse to check for foes. Here he saw Tara, washing her hair in a stream.
    As Elmal watched, Tara stood naked and dived in to the water. Elmal was aroused, he quickly removed the fine mail shirt and yellow britches, and dived into the waters. Tara was not shocked, or surprised, for she knew that Elmal had been watching her. The pair frolicked and splashed in the water, then they lay together on the bank.
    When Ernalda approached she could see Elmal, wet, lying on the bank. Ernalda was worried, for she feared the Predark demons had killed Elmal. Then she noticed him breathing so she stood over his sleeping body.
    “Why are you asleep Elmal?” Asked Ernalda.
    “I was not asleep, I was exhausted from fighting the foes that crept out of the Darkness to assault the Tula of your Husband!” asserted Elmal.
    “Then why are you wet?” quizzed Ernalda.
    “I had to fight, many times, once after I had fought I bent down to wash my face and another foe attacked me from behind and tried to drown me, but, I killed him too!” Lied Elmal.
    “Good” Said Ernalda. “You truly are the very best man in the whole Tula. When my husband returns I will tell him of all your brave defence and how you protected me and the other Goddesses from harm” , praised Ernalda.
    On the glorious return, As the gates of dawn were opened to allow Time and Future to be released, many children were born, like Voria the goddess of spring. Among the many children born as this time were these three. All three looked a lot like Elmal.

    In the stead, Mahome gave birth to a beautiful daughter and called her Tethin (Radiant flame of gold), Defender of the stead. She is The Daughter of Fire and symbolised by the red-breasted swan. In the stable, Beseta gave birth to a fine daugther and named her Tamara (Bright Horse). She is The Pony Girl and symbolised by a golden maned pony. At the edge of the Tula Ernalda found a girl-child and she called her Dalila (Maiden of Rocks and waters). She is The Golden Huntress. Dailia is the one who washes her golden hair in the streams and can lure Odaylans to their death with her voice. If they approach her with caution she can give then luck in hunting, just like her mother.

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    Quote:
    Quote from Roko Joko on January 1, 2014, 03:00
    On one hand the guide says that grass-like plants doesn’t grow [naturally] in [interior] Pamaltela. On the other hand,
    * people in the north cultivate barley, millet, rice, and wheat. Well, OK, you can say they get help from non-native grain goddesses.
    * the Doraddi use reeds. Hmmmmm. Well, maybe they’re from some other kind of plant. Fern stems? Shrub branches? Giant thistle prickles?
    * the Doraddi picture on p. 22 has groundcover that looks suspiciously grass-like. That was an unfortunate missed opportunity. It’s really interesting to imagine what a savanna kind of landscape would look like without grass.

    It was only in the earth year 2000 that the current classification of “grasses” was established using DNA phylogenetic studies.

    (Soreng,Davidse,Peterson,Zuloaga,Judziewicz,Filgueiras,Morrone,and Romaschenko; 2000. A WORLD-WIDE PHYLOGENETIC CLASSIFICATION OF POACEAE (GRAMINEAE)

    So I would suggest that if we accept your strict definition of what people would call grass, that many cereals and reeds could still be seen as non grasses.

    Yet….i would argue that:
    In Glorantha it is not the modern human classification of items, as well as modern human perceptions of events, schemata, cultures, race etc), that is important but the mythic one: thus if there was a mythic event where a growing thing was defined as “Grass” by a myth event or story; or was the offspring of a Grass spirit in Pamaltela then that plant is grass, otherwise even if it looks like what we modern humans think is grass it just isnt.

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    Pg 281 : There is a typo in the title of the boxed section on Kralorela

    #6206
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    will be interesting to see how the worship of those deities we think we know has changed over time

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