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  • #7374
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    Mark Mohrfield
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    Page 349 “Ch(a) is the most alien letter. It is the only one which does have a deity associated with it.” Considering that both the other letters are associated with deities that should probably be “does NOT have a deity associated with it.”

    RICK SEZ: Fixed.

    #7376
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    Martin Helsdon
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    Diamond Dwarf 464, 516
    First instance should be diamondwarf in the text (and index) to match usage below; second is part of a name and so probably shouldn’t be indexed separately.
    diamondwarf 502
    Diamondwarves 83, 87

    The following Index entry finds every usage of ‘Old’ – it should only refer to Page 452: Old (ruin).
    Recommend deleting all these page references:
    Old 16, 21, 25, 39, 42, 46, 49, 65, 68, 75, 81, 90, 101, 116, 125, 132, 133, 134, 136, 137, 138, 139, 141, 142, 150, 154, 157, 179, 187, 189, 206, 208, 210, 211, 221, 227, 234, 235, 237, 244, 245, 247, 248, 249, 251, 255, 257, 258, 288, 295, 311, 316, 319, 321, 327, 334, 342, 344, 348, 379, 382, 386, 403, 408, 409, 410, 412, 413, 415, 419, 420, 421, 439, 453, 454, 469, 470, 475, 476, 477, 497, 498, 500, 510, 513, 527, 531, 534, 535, 536, 537, 545, 551, 558, 575, 581, 619, 630, 631, 634, 638, 641, 668, 672, 674, 676, 677, 681, 684, 688, 689, 694, 696, 705, 708, 717, 721, 729, 730, 733, 736

    This Index entry should only refer to the River, not every river. The River (and Creak-Stream River) is referenced on pages 107, 160, 182, 183, 188, 237, 244, 245, 255, 256, 257.
    Note that the Celestial River is also called the River on pages 642.
    Recommend deleting all these page references:
    River 10, 26, 38, 41, 42, 52, 123, 128, 139, 145, 151, 158, 159, 162, 164, 167, 170, 175, 179, 187, 189, 190, 197, 198, 199, 200, 203, 205, 208, 210, 211, 212, 215, 216, 219, 220, 222, 224, 225, 227, 228, 229, 233, 242, 249, 254, 258, 259, 264, 269, 271, 274, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 288, 290, 292, 299, 302, 307, 309, 310, 311, 314, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 325, 327, 328, 330, 334, 335, 337, 338, 339, 342, 344, 348, 351, 357, 361, 362, 364, 368, 372, 375, 383, 384, 385, 387, 392, 393, 394, 395, 397, 403, 409, 411, 412, 413, 415, 419, 420, 421, 424, 429, 430, 432, 437, 438, 441, 443, 444, 445, 449, 450, 452, 454, 455, 456, 458, 459, 461, 464, 466, 485, 497, 498, 534, 537, 544, 545, 551, 553, 556, 557, 558, 563, 564, 566, 567, 570, 571, 581, 596, 597, 600, 602, 604, 605, 606, 608, 613, 619, 627, 630, 631, 634, 635, 638, 639, 642, 643, 644, 647, 648, 654, 665, 676, 678, 680, 683, 684, 700, 706, 708, 709, 711, 735, 737, 738, 739, 740

    This entry should only list the references to the Throne in Dagori Inkarth, and so should only list pages 190, 443.
    There should probably be a distinct entry for Throne (mountain) pages 227, 392, 393 (given under entry Throne Mountain).
    Recommend deleting all these page references:
    Throne 152, 227, 228, 254, 318, 329, 392, 393, 528, 530, 619, 634, 647, 654, 666, 727, 737, 743, 744

    There may be other similar cases where a place or ‘thing’ name unfortunately coincides with a wider usage; will keep looking.

    RICK SEZ: Fixed all but Diamonddwarf. Will wait on Jeff, or just leave it.

    #7377
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    Scott Mayne
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    [Text highlighted in red is a suggested change.]

    VOLUME 1

    Page 61
    – In the early Second Age, the Genertelan elves were assailed by trolls and dwarves, and more strife ensued, further weakening the elves.
    – But at the end of the Age, the Errinoru leaders were destroyed by a new type of insect.

    Page 62
    – Their skin is a smooth, dusty grey and they have no fingernails or toenails.
    – The upper bodies of blue elves somewhat resemble those of ordinary elves, though their skin is pale, purplish red, and they have weird, unblinking eyes.

    Page 63
    – His skin becomes gnarled and bark-like.

    Page 67
    – A dryad is illustrated here, bursting from her sacred tree to revel in the life-giving Sun.
    – The tribes are: Gaskallia; Novarooplia; Feofaxia; Garbulia; Ytarian; Jhostrobbios; and Zhnaquafian.

    Page 71
    – Also called noble or Tailed Priest, this is the most developed stage we have specimens of.
    – The Third Stage is fully carnivorous (unlike the largely vegetarian Phase One or the omnivorous Phase Two)
    – the dragonewt sense of smell is very well developed and they use smell, along with visual displays, for communication.
    – Their communication techniques includes auditory signals, such as hissing, jaw grinding and clapping, and vocalizations, although it would appear such techniques are less important than coloration and body movement.

    Page 73
    – Duty to the Ancestors: Since all dragonewts are descendants of dragons, their religion is really the worship of dragons.
    – The dragon religion urges that dragonewts avoid these owed favors, but their duties and orders often prevent it, and thus entanglements enter into their lives.
    – This Tailed Priest carries a klanth and a gami, both made out of dragonbone.

    Page 74
    – It is also the name of the bone shortsword used in the ritual. [described as bone on p. 76]

    Page 75
    – However, they have been known to summon and command Dream Dragons and to shape the elements with their thoughts.

    Page 79
    – The harder parts take centuries to fade significantly, the horny skin lasts for about fifty years before getting significantly soft, and muscle and organs take from ten to twenty-five years to fade.

    Page 80
    – The living wyrms say that their ancestors sought a path of development other than the usual dragon path.
    – Orlanth is one of the favorites, since his Movement magics are extremely useful for this handless race
    – During the Second Age, many wyrms in Dragon Pass, working together, helped interpret the dragon way to humans

    Page 83
    – They are the least human-looking of the dwarves, with stunted limbs and large shovel-like hands

    Page 89
    – Above the spoke is the massive pillar to which the cable is being attached. The pillar is made of Truestone.
    – The dwarves have been turning the capstan for several years to pull additional wires onto the cable; eventually the cable will be more than fifty feet thick.

    Page 90
    – The Mostali enter, and fleets begin transporting many dwarves, dinosaurs, and Mostali constructs to the island.

    Page 91
    – They are an ancient race, old in the God Time when age could not be measured.

    Page 95
    – Many wild trollkin roam the hills and valleys at the edge of troll lands, making for lively sport for their more civilized kin.

    Page 98
    – Basko the Black Sun: Troll god popular in Kingdom of Ignorance. Traditional enemy of the Sun God, yet ostensibly part of the Sky pantheon.
    – Zorak Zoran: God of hate and violence. Troll war god. Only Darkness god to control fire.

    Page 100
    – The net result is that dwarves usually control small (i.e., underground) places so the trolls cannot use their mobility to any advantage.

    Page 101
    – Jungle Trolls, or Muri, inhabit the rain forests of the Errinoru Jungle.

    RICK SEZ: Fixed.

    #7378
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    boztakang
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    page 100 – “What about elves?” and “How about the elves?” should not be bold section headers, and carriage return should be removed after initial “What about elves?” (consistent with troll pack – two section headings asking about elves is odd…)

    RICK SEZ: Changed headings a bit.

    #7381
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    Jenx
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    Page 417, as well as some other maps – Antilia is shown, but there doesn’t appear to be any write up for it.

    Page 623, the Umathela plate – I am not sure if this is because of the artist or the pdf or something, but the merchant’s son and daughter are both described as olive skinned, while being quite yellow or golden skinned in the picture.

    JEFF SEZ: Antilla entry would add no info. Umathela plate is OK as is. Olives can range in color.

    #7382
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    Jonathan Geere
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    Page 750. “Other material has appeared since 1975 in various publications. This appendix is a guide to those sources.”

    I would humbly say that the last sentence should be deleted or amended, as only Moon Design’s current stock is listed (assuming King of Sartar is re-printed in 2014).

    “King of Sartar. By Greg Stafford. A work of fiction,…”
    Slightly confusing (“A work of fiction”) as all these books, after all, are fiction. So is this ‘in world’ fiction? Maybe just delete?

    RICK SEZ: Tweaked the text a bit. Not going to worry about “fiction” reference.

    #7384
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    David Dunham
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    Quote:
    Quote from Thomas Lindgren on April 3, 2014, 22:32
    1. I’d like a better/lighter contrast color for the Lunar sections, a less deep red (or pink even?). I can see the reason for choosing that color, but the current contrast is difficult to read.

    Yes exactly. Hopefully this is a global style that Rick can dial back. We know it’s the Red Moon, but we would like to read about it.

    RICK SEZ: It prints better than it is on-screen.

    #7386
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    Scott Mayne
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    [Text highlighted in red is a suggested change.]

    VOLUME 1

    Page 103
    – Cetoi are mammalian, with dolphin- or seal-like hindparts. Piscoi are fish-like, with scaly tails and even bodies.

    Page 104
    – Malasp are one of the two Great Kindreds, having scales and fish-like fins and tails.
    – The Malasp are a breed of mermen who are violent and predatory, hateful of all things which breathe air, perhaps hating themselves the most of all.
    – The eggs hatch in eight weeks, and the nest dissolves in about twenty-five more.
    – and in the newly created archipelago of Jrustela formed a cohesive kingdom

    Page 105
    – Seamen of all Glorantha curse the Ysabbau and blame them for an astounding variety of calamities, often truthfully.
    – Male Zabdamar use tridents in combat, both as handheld and thrown weapons

    Page 107
    – The being to whom the emotion crystal is given can break it, swallow it, dash it into the ground, or use it in another manner specified by the jelmre, to gain a powerful effect.

    Page 108
    – They are generally well-mannered and kind, in contrast to their Genertelan kin.

    Page 111
    – In their pact, the deities settled their senseless and destructive wars which had precipitated the Chaos they now united against.

    Page 114
    – 1. First (top)
    – 2. Separation of Three Good Brothers from One (middle)
    – 3. Lodril’s Descent, Crash, and Burn (bottom)

    Page 115
    – 4. Dragon’s Rise and Yelm’s Ascent to High Sky (top)
    – 5. Yelm’s Eight Sons and the Ascent of Entekos (middle)
    – 6. The Pit and Umath (bottom)

    Page 116
    – 7. Umath’s Spiral of Destruction (top)

    Page 117
    – 9. The Death of Umath (top)
    – 10. Yelm Destroyed (bottom)
    – Great masses of trolls thrived on the surface in the growing Darkness.

    Page 120
    – while the combination of entropy and existence seem to synthesize into the god Time, who later rules the cosmos [suggested to differentiate from the God Time period]

    Page 121
    – Sometimes the path was clearly visible because Yelm’s blood still glowed and dark, shapeless things fed upon it and preyed upon unwary travelers.

    Page 123
    – 14. The final panel depicts the World Spider, Arachne Solara, as she weaves her web that binds the world and the otherworld together.

    Page 124
    – Arachne Solara first comes to notice in the tale of the Great Compromise, wherein Orlanth, Yelm, and the other deities in the Underworld swear pacts and oaths to preserve themselves.

    Page 132
    – holy people and con men

    Page 134
    – MAP: arrow pointing to south of Nolos with no text

    Page 135
    – At first their shortsightedness had no effect: the famous experiment vulgarly called the Goddess Switch, of 849 in which two earth goddesses were switched as objects of worship, had no immediately noticeable result.

    Page 137
    – the Broos of the Black Pus, had formerly appeared during a change in the mythic structure
    – Sea monsters, merman spirits, and shades of the drowned all sailed with avenging Waertagi dragonships vomited up from the Sea of the Dead.

    Page 138
    – Five years later the invisible wall pushed up to the fringes of the East Isles, but dissipated instead of moving among them. The fleet of refugees which had been moving eastward settled among the East Isles. [comma instead of period in text between two sentences]
    – However, Harlophine Lastros, a cruel interrogator using morally questionable, but magically reliable, methods, proved in 1127
    – 920 when the Closing began; 940, when Jrustela was lost; 970, when the Closing was complete; 1042, when the Empire of the Wyrms Friends was overthrown; 1049, when Seshnela sank

    Page 140
    – In 1245 began a series of battles which over the next two years tore the fabric of the real world and raged about the magical Castle Blue on Lake Oronin. [original placement of ‘began’ doesn’t work with ‘raged’]
    OR
    – In 1245, a series of battles began which over the next two years tore the fabric of the real world, raging about the magical Castle Blue on Lake Oronin.

    Page 144
    – As Dormal sailed westward, teaching others of his craft, the Holy Country fleet went all about the Mournsea area, making alliances with the Triolini and suppressing the ships made by the resourceful city of Handra.
    – Each of these nations had a healthy number of ocean-going vessels afloat by 1583 and each dominated their region of the coast.

    RICK SEZ: Fixed! whew…

    #7392
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    Ville Bergholm
    Spectator

    Time in Glorantha
    =================

    The “Time in Glorantha” section is very short and has a lot of overlap with Appendix B: Gloranthan Calendar. Several sections of text are duplicated. This might be too drastic a change at this point, but I feel the two sections would work much better if merged together.

    112: middle col, Variant Systems: “This dating system is the YS system” sounds a bit clumsy, what does YS stand for?
    112: Apparently the only two instances of the word “mana” in the Guide are here, not explained. The corresponding section in Appendix B says “magic” instead.

    Appendix B: Gloranthan Calendar
    ===============================

    Five Seasons color plates (they’re gorgeous, by the way:): The itemizing indentation in all the “Places and Things” sections is inconsistent and seems unnecessary, the bolding is enough. I would suggest removing the indentation.

    654: Sea Season in Esrolia:
    first para: “To our right rises” -> “To our right rise”
    Red Moon: Sky -> sky?

    655: Fire Season in Dara Happa:
    First para: “great circular plaza” -> “Great Circular Plaza”
    Raibanth: “a huge river” -> “the huge Oslir river”?
    Our vantage place: unnecessary, repeats the first paragraph.
    The Sun: “from the Solar Eye” -> “from it”

    656: Earth Season in Tarsh:
    “Our view point” -> “The Harvest”?
    Earth Temple and…: “far left” -> “far right”??

    657: Darkness Season in the Shadows Dance:
    View Point: Repeats the first paragraph, unnecessary.
    “Thieves Ridge” -> “Thieves’ Ridge”?

    659: Storm Season in Sartar: Unnecessary italics: Royal Palace*2, Sartar’s Flame

    659: Other Calendars, first para: “Glorantha calendars” -> “Gloranthan calendars”
    “phases or seven days” -> “phases, seven days”

    #7398
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    Jonathan Geere
    Spectator

    Page 753. Symbols –> Numerals ?

    RICK SEZ: Fixed.

    #7399
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    Jonathan Geere
    Spectator

    Page 475 Regional Activity Table. Rare Events. Vithela –> Vithalash ?
    It’s hardly a rare event that trade happens within the continent (Vithela), but rare for trade to come from Vithalash?

    However, it is slightly confusing as Vithela appears to be use to describe the continent (now partly submerged to form Islands), and to describe the remaining hub of which Vithalash is the remaining part in the Middle World.

    Either way, maybe Vithalash might be clearer?

    #7400
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    Roko Joko
    Spectator

    p. 243 teaming -> teeming

    RICK SEZ: reported previously, and fixed.

    #7403
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    Guy Jobbins
    Spectator

    Hi Jeff – can you let me know your email address so I can take advantage of your invitation in the OP?

    RICK SEZ: You can email me at rmeints-at-gmail-dot-com. Please remember that is only for something big that greatly affects format. Simple edits should go in this forum. We can’t process small edits individually via email.

    #7404
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    Vaughan Cockell
    Spectator

    Pg 673 – Sidebar re Missing Gods. Mostal is listed but not in Bold Font, nor indented. Gives the impression he is part of the entry on Magasta.

    RICK SEZ: This was already reported, and already fixed. PLEASE check what others have posted. Pretty please.

    #7405
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    Roko Joko
    Spectator

    p. 292 Crimson Bat -> the Crimson Bat
    And, (suggested) “the Broos Regiment Headquarters” -> “Broos Regiment Headquarters”

    RICK SEZ: Fixed.

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